Collective Care is a written interview series with people who are changing the world. Most often, these folks are working at the intersection of creative, healing, and/or activist work.
I’m in love with the idea of amplifying the work (and self-care practices) of people who are building a more compassionate world. In this series, I get to chat with people who inspire me like whoa.
Today we get to meet Kathleen Shannon!
Kathleen, take it away!
How are you changing the world?
(What is your change-making, healing, and/or creative work? This might be paid, unpaid or a combination.)
Wow, it feels a little ambitious to state that I’m changing the world, but if I’m really “owning it” I’d say I’m changing the world with my podcast Being Boss. I show up with my co-host Emily Thompson every week to share stories, insights, and struggles on how to be a working creative entrepreneur.
We share personal stories and share insights on how to cultivate confidence, develop productive habits & routines, make and manage your money, and establish working boundaries so you can be more boss. And we share all of that through the lens of being who you are 100% of the time (in work & life) and making money doing what you love.
What challenges your heart in that journey?
The biggest challenge I’m facing lately is being myself 100% of the time even as my audience grows. When I become aware of how many people are tuning in I become almost paralyzed thinking I might say something hurtful or offensive.
For example, I was recently asked how to be more comfortable during a photoshoot and I flippantly joked that a glass of wine always helps me. I apparently offended a few listeners who stopped turning in and said my words were irresponsible.
I stand behind what I said. (Because I do like a glass of wine before a shoot!) But am also challenged by the fact that being authentically who I am means giving people permission to not like what I have to say.
What inspires you to keep going?
While I want to say something like “The amazing emails we get from fans who have quit their day jobs or are finally paying the bills with their creative career” the truth is I just really love what I do. Being able to express myself through conversations with my business bestie, getting to interview the most talented creatives and experts out there, and being able to have fun conversations for a living is pretty awesome.
How do you support yourself or tend to yourself and your heart in that process?
What nourishes and replenishes you?
Travel and adventure always brings me back to myself.
How do you experience care within community?
How do others support you in your journey and practice?
I’ve learned that community and relationships are what life is all about. Connecting with other creatives is how I find meaning in my own work. Connecting with my family is how I find meaning in my own life. The “it’s not just me” conversations and the “let’s try this!” collaborations are what nourish my soul.
What’s your best piece of advice you have for people who want to make a difference?
This is going to sound counter-intuitive but if you want to make a difference you need to be selfish. Do what you truly love (for yourself!) and it will make an impact and difference for those around you. Honestly.
Paint us a picture of the more compassionate world and future you imagine.
Oh wow. I think a lot about how if everyone was doing what they were best at we’d have a much happier and diverse world. There wouldn’t be wage gaps, wars, or hunger if we were all able to live our values and do what we were put on earth to create.
Kathleen Shannon is the co-host of the Being Boss Podcast and co-owner of Braid Creative & Consulting. She lives in Oklahoma City with her husband and their toddler, Fox.
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